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[Posted April
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Spinning the Web
His Divine Grace A.C.
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Founder-Acharya of the
world-wide Hare Krishna Movement, Brahma Sampradaya Acharya
Sunday Herald - April 1, 2006 - NEIL
MACKAY - America's
War on the Web IMAGINE a world where wars are fought over the internet;
where TV broadcasts and newspaper reports are designed by the military
to confuse the population; and where a foreign armed power can shut
down your computer, phone, radio or TV at will.
In 2006, we are just about to enter such a world. This is the
age of information warfare, and details of how this new military
doctrine will affect everyone on the planet are contained in a report,
entitled The Information Operations Roadmap, commissioned and approved
by US secretary of defence Donald Rumsfeld and seen by the Sunday
Herald.
Conversation (morning walk) with Srila Prabhupada, September
29, 1975 in Ahmedabad.
Prabhupada:
Your philosophy is unless you see, you don't believe. That is your
philosophy. But you do not consider what you can see. That is the
defect of this imperfect world, that people do not think that they are
imperfect. With all imperfectness, they think they are perfect. That is
the defect. Therefore it is said, andha. One is blind, and he
is becoming the leader of other blind men. Andha yathandhair
upaniyamanas te 'pisha-tantryam uru-damni baddhah [Srimad
Bhagavatam 7.5.31]. Isha-tantrya, by the laws of
nature he is bound up very tight, hands and legs, and he is thinking he
is free to think, free to see, free to... That is the defect. He is not
at all free, completely under the clutches of material laws, and he is
thinking that he is free. That is the defect. And when this sense
comes, that "I am not free; everything is forced upon me," then he
becomes human being. Otherwise he's a dog. Just like, you see, if a dog
thinks he is free. He is jumping here, there. He is thinking, "I am
independent," barking, attacking somebody. Oh, he is thinking he is
free to do everything. When one comes to this sense, that he is not
free, that is beginning of human life. Athato brahma jijnasa.
Then the question will be that "Why I am not free? What is the reason?"
Then that is... Real human life begins. Otherwise he's a dog. Is it
correct or not? What do you think? If one is not free and wrongly
thinks that he is free, then what is that mentality? A doggish
mentality. And if I say, "Yes, you are free. You can think in any way
you like. That is correct," then you become more encouraged to become,
to remain a fool, to continue. That's all. So we shall go now? That is
the defective part of modern civilization. Everyone is thinking, "I am
free." Is it not? Everyone.
Indian man (5): Yes. "I am perfect. I am like this."
Prabhupada: Yes.
Indian man (5): He thinks who is living under the delusion.
Prabhupada:
That is explained in the Bhagavad-gita, Sixteenth
Chapter. "I am..." Adhyo 'smi dhanavan asmi ko'sti mama samah:
"Who is there like me, intelligent? I will do this. I will do that."
These are all...
Indian man (5): Continues delusion.
Prabhupada: Yes. Therefore Krishna has imposed death, that
"You may make your plan as free man, but you'll not be allowed to stay.
I'll kick you out." These poor men, they did not think of it, that "I
am making so nice plan, but at any moment I'll be kicked out. So where
is my freedom?" Dull brain does not think of it. A prisoner, if he
thinks that he is free to act, is it not foolishness? A prisoner, in
prison, and if he thinks that he is free to act, is it not foolishness?
So that they do not think. Therefore Krishna has grouped them: mudha,
these rascals, mudha. They conduct freedom movement. Just like
in our country also, before this British Empire or this Mohammedan
Empire there was no knowledge about this freedom. Indian people never
thought of freedom. They know that "We are not free. Where is the
question of freedom?" These things have come from the foreign
countries, freedom movement. What is freedom? Where are you free? You
are completely under the laws of nature. Where is your freedom? So they
were thinking of greater freedom, to get out of the clutches of the
laws of nature. That is real freedom. What is this freedom? From frying
pan to the fire? [chuckles] Now we have freedom means from frying pan
to the fire. Formerly there was one viceroy. Now in each state three
dozen viceroys, and you have to maintain that. So many legislators, so
many secretaries, so many ministers. All, they are sucking our poor
blood. That's all. Hare Krishna. And as soon as you approach them for
some grievances, "All right, give me application," and, after six
months, "No." So we are maintaining for this purpose? Yes. "I say no."
That's all. Hare Krishna. [They are talk]...ing of freedom, but we have
no freedom even to stay in this body.
Indian man (6): Yes. That is not our plan.
Indian man (5): Somebody else is controlling that.
Prabhupada: Yes. We learn that na hanyate hanyamane
sharire [Bhagavad-gita 2.20]. "This is my position.
I am eternal. So why I am obliged to accept body which is hanyamana?"
These questions do not bother them. And where is my freedom? "I am
eternal. Na hanyate hanyamane sharire [Bhagavad-gita
2.20]. I do not die after the destruction of my body. Then why I am put
into this body which will be destroyed, which will become old, useless?
And where is my freedom?" These things do not bother them, and they are
reader of Bhagavad-gita.
Indian man (6): Somebody told that they are made to come
here...
Prabhupada: Eh?
Indian man (6): Is it the sin of some of the...?
Prabhupada: No, that we shall consider. First of all we
have to see that I learn that my position is na hanyate
hanyamane sharire [Bhagavda-gita 2.20]. So why I am
put into this body which is hanyamana? ...
They want to remain in darkness, and any leader who will keep him in
the darkness in flowery language, he will be welcomed: "Oh, he is very
good leader." "And this man is very conservative: 'Don't do this, don't
do this, don't do this.' " So here is freedom. "Whatever you like, you
do"—here is freedom. If this rascal does not do what you do and you go
to hell, that is their business. Krishna therefore says, "You rascal,
where is your freedom?" Janma-mrityu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha
-doshanudarshanam [Bhagavad-gita 13.9]. First of
all you see. Janma-mrityu-jara-vyadhi. So where is your
freedom? First of all get out of these things; then question of
freedom. Janma-mrityu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha
-doshanudarshanam. This is your knowledge, that "Where is my
freedom? If I am under the rules and regulation of
janma-mrityu-jara-vyadhi, then where is my freedom?" ...Simply
rubber-stamped freedom will help me? Suppose I was dependent on British
rule, and now I have become free. So will this help me to get freedom
from janma-mrityu-jara-
vyadhi? Then where is my freedom? What are major questions, they
have set aside. "Don't discuss all these things, and bother your head
with trifle things." And our philosophy is that "Don't bother with
these trifle things. Just seriously think of the major problems." This
is our philosophy. Hare Krishna. [break] Tesham aham samuddharta
mrityu-samsara-
sagarat [Bhagavad-gita 12.7]. Samuddaharta,
just to deliver them from this ocean of mrityu-
samsara. That is not care. Real freedom is given by him—that you
don't care. [break] ...will be given by Krishna. This is no freedom.
Here the so-called freedom-giver, he has no freedom. And what he will
give, freedom? Gandhiji preached so much about nonviolence, and
nonviolence said, "All right, you have no freedom from nonviolence. You
die." [break] ...is there, there is no question of freedom.