What are your plans for the upcoming war?

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Dear Hansadutta Prabhu,


Thank you for your reply. Here are my thoughts on the current situation:

Srila Prabhupada stressed the necessity for his disciples to live a simple living/high thinking lifestyle. This has generally not been implemented.

Such a lifestyle makes its adherents somewhat immune to the consequences of war and economic chaos.

There is good evidence that Srila Prabhupada sent a letter in 1977 ordering all his grhasta disciples to move to farm communities. This letter disappeared, but enough devotees saw it to collaborate its existence. From this we can surmise that Srila Prabhupada stressed the importance of a lifestyle that is very different from the one practiced my most devotees at this time. I also saw a video of Srila Prabhupada on his death bed, unable to lift his head, but speaking about the lifestyle that he wanted the devotees to live.

Srila Prabhupada also said that the materialistic civilization would be destroyed by nuclear weapons and that after the war people would come to their senses and that the situation would become very favorable for spreading Krsna consciousness.

At the present time, if a person is interested in practicing Krsna consciousness, I don’t have a bhakta/bhaktin program where I can send him/her. I regard the present ISKCON to be a pseudo-ISKCON, but not somewhere that I would send a sincere person who was interested in becoming Krsna conscious. However as the economy collapses I fully expect that many of my godbrothers and godsisters will remember what Srila Prabhupada said about the lifestyle and the coming War and will be very interested in moving to a place where they will have food. The situation that is staring us in the face is one that was arranged by the demons so that they will be able to control the population through the scarcity of food. All you have to do at the present time is to make petroleum/oil very expensive and food will not happen in the supermarkets. Most people don’t know how to produce food and even the farmers don’t know how to farm without the petroleum products.

I expect that in the not so distant future that a situation such as the one we have landed in will become extremely attractive to a variety of people. Srila Prabhupada did say that he felt sorry for his disciples because they would have to experience the coming war. Because most of his disciples are older now, it is a good indication that the time he was speaking of is getting close.

It is important for the devotees to be in a position of strength when the economic system collapses. If we had developed the farming communities and farmed using oxen, people would already be seeing us as leaders—we’d have had 35 years to learn self-reliant skills. The way things are now, if we do nothing to prepare, other than chanting, we will have to scramble just to keep body and soul together and won’t be in a position to be effective. While Srila Prabhupada never said that we should do anything specifically to prepare for the coming war—his instructions were more for the lifestyle for the next 10,000 years—I know that he wanted us to live in such a way that the war wouldn’t affect us.

Although pseudo-ISKCON is impotent, the real ISKCON is destined to be around for the next 10,000 years. There is more to Krsna consciousness than just the books: Srila Prabhupada taught his disciples the culture—something that can’t really be learned from the books. Things such as putting on tilak, deity worship, putting on devotional clothes, cooking protocol, playing mrdanga etc., will need to be taught by us (Srila Prabhupada’s disciples). There is no one else to do it. The fact that you are still in your body in spite of your health problems is an indication that Krsna might be offering you a chance to make amends by playing a part in reestablishing the real ISKCON when the environment suddenly becomes extremely favorable due to chaos in the material world.

In a way I’m looking forward to the coming changes because the world right now is so crazy.

Wishing you the best,


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4 Responses to What are your plans for the upcoming war?

  1. Hare Krsna says:

    I was wondering why was is the present day iskcon pseudo? So where do all the disciples of Srila Prabhupad live now? Also is there any means by which one can get initiated through the ritvik system still today?

    • Damodardas says:

      Yes, the present ISKCON is pseudo as nobody is following Prabhupada’s instructions. There are several other temples opened by ISKCON Banglore in India and here in the USA in Sunnyvale California called the Krishna-Balram mandir. Please get the contact info from the web.

    • SMVD says:

      yes prabhu pl come to ISKCON Bangalore

  2. Jayadeva goswami dasa (acbsp) says:

    The Amish have been using oxen for decades, but, their people are leaving in droves for the cities… the young members are tantalized by the attractions of the material glitter

    Krsna conscious philosophy automatically includes a life of simplicity and higher elevated thinking…I have a hard time buying the “pseudo-Iskcon’ statement as factual… Prabhupada established temples in the great cities of the world for a purpose… to attract the masses to Krsna.. He said that all those temples are Vaikuntha, non different from the spiritual planets

    Yes, farm life and getting and producing ones own means is necessary, and ideal… and many many devotees are doing this… just not so loudly.. but they are showing by example that it is being done… anyways, the important thing is Krsna Consciousness… whether one is in the city, or on a farm, self sufficient… this situation is temporary… the real thing is Krsna Consciousness

    Hansadutta sent me from Berkeley to Mt kailash in 1980 to help out on the farm there, and I will be forever indebted to him for giving me that service… I was only there a short time, maybe 6 months, but, in retrospect it was the most influential experience on my life, being a boy from the city

    if some nuclear armageddon takes place soon, or in the future, Hare Krsna will prevail…Iskcon will prevail…. Krsna Bhakta’s will take the lead, along with others for the new economic era that will be forced upon the people after the cataclysmic events occur

    sense gratification and luxury will become a thing of the past.. all that over indulgence, over production, demoniac factory industry, and the sciences will be turned and forced back towards adopting, or reestablishing the ancient techniques of farming and caring for the land and water.. the prophecy is written in the Bhagavatam.. Just the date is missing

    but yes, the ten thousand year golden era of Kali Yuga has already commenced, since 530 years now… leaving us 9,470 some odd years yet remaining… that should give us all plenty of time to finish our business here and go back home, back to godhead, since if we don’t get it now, we will be coming back here again and again to get more opportunities, by the grace of Krishna and Srila Prabhupada.

    Hare Krsna!

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