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excerpt from Morning Walk, Los Angeles, December 8, 1973:
PRABHUPADA: …Nowadays they are not talking of going to the moon planet. There is no newspaper news.
SVARUP DAMODAR: They have a bigger plan.
PRABHUPADA: That is another bluff. Now the small plan they could not make successful. Now they are thinking of bigger plan. You see?
SVARUP DAMODAR: They are planning to go to Mars now.
PRABHUPADA: Yes, that is another bluff. Another bluff. The smaller plan, they could not make successful. Now they’re attempting bigger plan. Bara bara goragere rasatala, beta gora katha jala. [Bengali] Betagor… There is a story that there was river. You know, horse can swim over. So big, big stalwart horses, they waved, mean, they washed away by the flood. So one lean and thin horse is coming, “Can you tell me how much water is there?” It is like bara bara goragere rasatala, beta gora katha jala. [Bengali] So these rascals could not reach even the moon planet; now they are planning to the Mars planet. Just see. And another rascal will believe him. That, What you have done for the… which is the nearest planet?
KARANDHAR: Well, they say they’ve done everything they wanted to do with the moon. They say they’ve accomplished everything they wanted to on the moon.
PRABHUPADA: So you are not successful. That’s a fact.
KARANDHAR: Basically what they did is they went there and they realized it’s not worth anything, so there’s no use going there.
PRABHUPADA: That means you bluff again, and you take some money. That’s your business.
PRAJAPATI: The public interest is flagging, and they’re not interested in the moon anymore. They want something more exciting. So to get the…
PRABHUPADA: Yes. So that is bluffing. That is bluffing. The scientists want to be engaged and get money from the government, so they must go on bluffing. Otherwise how they’ll get money?