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[Posted June 20, 2006]

Dead Intelligence

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

Founder-Acharya of the world-wide Hare Krishna Movement, Brahma Sampradaya Acharya

Srila Prabhupada

Morning walk conversation with disciples, Paris, June 12, 1974

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Paramahamsa: You have quoted a great English Poet who says that "Man has created the city..."

Prabhupada: Ah, yes.

Paramahamsa: "...and God has created the country."

Prabhupada: This is the statement of Mr. Cowper. Man has created nothing. Suppose this building, man has created. But wherefrom the ingredient comes. Has man created? This stone, man has created? Eh? What do you think? Is this stone, creation of man?

Paramahamsa: No.

Prabhupada: Then what... You have done the work of a laborer. That's all. You have taken ingredients from God and worked hard and transformed into a step. That's all. Your creation means just like carpenter creates a furniture. That's all. That is his creation. Then that is... The economic law says that man cannot create anything. He can simply transform. These trees, has man created these trees? Why do they claim man has created everything?

Pusta-krsna: But they will say that they made the garden.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Pusta-krsna: They will say that they made a very nice garden.

Prabhupada: That's all. That is the business of gardener, servant, not creator. That is the business of the servant. Just like I keep a gardener servant, and "Do like this. Do like that." That is not he is creator. It is my money which has created. Therefore it is Krishna's, everything. That is Krishna consciousness, that you have not created anything. You are servant. You are working, and Krishna is giving you your subsistence. That's all. So why don't you accept that you are servant of God instead of claiming that you have created. What you have created? This is our challenge. Am I right or wrong?

Paramahamsa: Right.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Paramahamsa: Right.

Prabhupada: Yes. What you have created?

Paramahamsa: Life becomes so artificial. In the big city, people don't see that they depend on God.

Prabhupada: No, no. City or country, that I don't say that Mr. Cowper is perfect in his statement. City is also created by God. City is also created by God. God has given you the ingredients, He has given you the intelligence, and you create. Eh? Wherefrom you get the intelligence? Eh? Who will answer this? Wherefrom the man gets his intelligence?

Pusta-krsna: From Krishna.

Prabhupada: Yes. What is the verse?

Pusta-krsna: Mattah smritir jnanam...

Prabhupada: Ah. Mattah smritir jnanam apohanam cha [Bhagavad-gita 15.15]. Sarvasya chaham hridi sannivishtah. So He is sitting in everyone's heart, and He's giving intelligence. And because the intelligence comes from God, therefore one is more intelligent, one is less intelligent. Because intelligence is not his. It is by the mercy of God one gets more intelligence, one gets less intelligence. So intelligence is supplied by God.

Yogesvara: Yet... But they claim to have found a way of making people biologically more intelligent now.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Yogesvara: The scientists claim that they have found a way of making babies more intelligent.

Prabhupada: That, they are dipping in so many things. Therefore we kick on their face, that say, promise, so many things, but cannot do anything. That is the defect of the so-called scientists. They are promising, "By scientific method, we shall make man deathless." Do they not say?


Prabhupada: But have they made him deathless? Simply a dream. That's all. Utopian dream.

Bhagavan: Even if they succeed in one area of doing something they promise...

Prabhupada: Yes.

Bhagavan: ...they create something that they didn't want to. They create some other problem that they didn't expect.

Prabhupada: What they have created? They are creating... But still dependent. Suppose they have created this horseless carriage. Now they are crying, "Where is the petrol? Where is the petrol?" So if God does not supply petrol, then all these horseless carriage will be pieces of tin. That's all.

Pusta-krsna: Maya-sukhaya.

Prabhupada: Can you create petrol?

Bhagavan: No.

Prabhupada: Then what is the value of your, this horseless carriage? You are dependent on God. What you have created? And what you can do? You can create war only to fight, man to man, and when you are in danger, then you go to church; "God save us. God save us." That you can create. And as far as peacefully living, accepting God as the Supreme, you can create war. That's all. That means... Like dogs, they create war. So this is a nice park. Why do you go so far? It is nice park. Now you create something to enjoy. Just like who created this building? Napoleon?

French Devotee (1): No.

Prabhupada: Then?

French Devotee (1): It's not by Napoleon. It's just...

Paramahamsa: What is it from?

French Devotee (2): It's a new building.

French Devotee (1): It's new. It's not hundred years old. It's called Marine Museum, Museum of the Marines.

Paramahamsa: It's a museum for exhibitions.

Prabhupada: The man who created, he's kicked out. "Get out!" What did he do? "I have created this thing. I must enjoy." Why he's kicked out? Why?

Pusta-krsna: Because it is actually not his property.

Prabhupada: What is the answer? Why you are kicked out? Answer somebody.

Pusta-krsna: It's just like this body.

Bhagavan: He's not the real proprietor.

Prabhupada: Therefore... Yes. And not only kicked out. Who knows that he has been given a different body, maybe cats and dogs? So what is the value of this creation? Suppose I create this building, and on account of mentality, nature gives me next body a dog, and... Then what is my profit?

Yogesvara: Yeah, there was that man who came to see you a couple of days ago. His argument was that we can't really say for sure because it's not perceivable that we will take a dog's body. But at least this is something we can understand. Here's something, a nice accomplishment.

Prabhupada: But you understand, but you can understand also that you'll be kicked out. Don't you understand this?

Bhagavan: He doesn't know it.

Prabhupada: Eh? Therefore, he's a fool.

Bhagavan: There's a statement that says that...

Prabhupada: Just like suppose if I do something here in Paris, and if you say, "Sir, as soon as your visa is finished, you'll be kicked out," shall I be interested to create anything? That is intelligence, that "I will be kicked out after two months. Why shall I construct such a big scheme?" That is intelligence. So these rascals know that he'll be kicked out. Still, he works day and night for collecting bricks and stones and he becomes a big man. Mean a foolish rascal, he is considered a big man. Therefore shva-vid-varahoshtra-kharaih samstutah purushah pashuh [Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.3.19].

Paramahamsa: People argue that "God has given us our intelligence and our senses, and therefore we must enjoy."

Prabhupada: Yes. You enjoy. The dog is also enjoying. What you are enjoying more than the dog? Dog also eat. You also eat. Dog also sleep. You also sleep. Dogs also enjoy sex life. You also enjoy sex life. Dog is also afraid of his enemy. You are also afraid of your enemy. So what is the difference between you and dog? Why you claim that you have become very great? What is the difference between the dog's mentality and your mentality? God has given you intelligence to understand that you are nothing, God is everything. Just realize it. That is intelligence. That is intelligence. When you understand that "God is great. I am His servant," that is real realization. That is his intelligence. Otherwise, he's exactly like the dog. What is his intelligence?

Paramahamsa: But people today have reasoned God is dead with their intelligence.

Prabhupada: God is not dead. Your intelligence is dead. You have got a dead body, and you are proud of it. Eh? Decoration of the dead body. And you are decorating the dead body. The body's dead. That's a fact. Because as soon as you, soul, get out, it is dead body. But the body's already there. That means I am occupying a dead body. So long I am there, it is working only. But the body's dead. And you are decorating the dead body. You are so intelligent. You are interested with a dead body. And you have no intelligence to see that actually it is dead body. Because as soon as I will go away, it is dead body. The body is dead, but... Just like motor car. It is dead. If there is no petrol, it is dead. Similarly, your body is dead. Now try to understand. And if somebody decorates a dead body, is he very intelligent?

Bhagavan: No.

Prabhupada: Then? Your all acquisition is decoration of the dead body. That is a verse, apranasya hi dehasya mandanam loka-ranjanam. Loka-ranjanam. You can get some rascal and fool, some applause, "Oh, you are so nice. You are decorating dead body." But intelligent man will say "What a fool he is that he's decorating a dead body. That's all."

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