Svarup Damodar: They will
prolong death. They're trying to prolong.
Prabhupada: "They're trying."
Svarup Damodar: A bit longer.
Svarup Damodar: Ultimately,
find there is no death.
Prabhupada: No, what...?
Death is... What do you mean by death?
Svarup Damodar: Losing the
Prabhupada: Yes. So that you
are losing every day, every moment. You are not today what you were
yesterday, that you are losing. So, how can you defeat? You are, every
moment you are being defeated.
Svarup Damodar: There are
some theories now. By turning the temperature, by cooling down little
more than the body temperature, you can live longer.
Prabhupada: Well, you can
live little longer, but you cannot live forever. That is not possible.
Umapati: They're freezing the
body now, Prabhupada, in the hopes that sometime in the future science
will be able to make them come back to life.
Prabhupada: That is all
future. That is all future.
Hrdayananda: They take so
much money for it.
Prabhupada: It is not
Karandhara: The trouble is
when they lower the body temperature, the sensitivity is lowered.
Therefore enjoyment is also lowered. So it's a question of living for a
few more years and enjoying less or enjoying more and living less.
Svarup Damodar: But the
government is very kind to them. They supply money to do research on
that, thousands of dollars.
Prabhupada: And what is the
government? Combination of some rascals. You are a rascal. You vote
another rascal, and they combine together and become government. That's
all. None of them are intelligent. I am rascal. So I must vote another
rascal. And all those combination of rascals become government. And
they cheat another, the rascals who voted them. That's all. Therefore
it is a society of cheater and cheated.