if you can manufacture a man or an animal in
the laboratory, where is your credit? There are many millions and
millions are coming automatically. We are trying to give
credit to Krishna who is making all this creation.
an early-morning walk, Srila Prabhupada points out to his disciples how
insignificant are man's scientific achievements compared to God's
limitlessly complex creation. (June 6, 1974, Geneva)
Prabhupada: Just look at this fig. In this
one fig, there are thousands of seeds. And each seed contains a tree
like that. And there are thousands of fruits, figs. Where is that
chemist who can prepare such figs? Once, in Delhi, when our festival
was going on, we invited a big chemist. He admitted that "Our chemical
advancement, scientific advancement is like this." He explained very
nicely. You were present?
Prabhupada: In Delhi. He said
that a man who has learned the art to, what is called, barking like
dog, and people will go to see, purchasing ticket, ten rupees, twenty
rupees, how the man is barking like a dog. And there are so many dogs
barking. They won't see. This is our advancement. If a man has
artificially learned how to bark, they'll go to see by paying fees. And
the natural barking, they don't care.
So these rascals are like that. They're trying to manufacture life. And
so many life is coming by nature's process, millions and millions, that
is no credit. And he's trying, utopian, he'll create life by chemical
combination, he's given all credit, Nobel Prize: "Oh, here is a man."
This is rascaldom. So what credit you'll get.
Suppose if you can manufacture a man or an animal in the laboratory,
where is your credit? There are many millions and millions are coming
automatically. We are trying to give credit to Krishna who is making
all this creation.
Yogesvara: There is one
Englishman named Aldous Huxley...
Yogesvara: ...who wrote a
book called Brave New World, and in that book, he
predicted something that's coming true now, that there would be a
process of biologically screening babies so that men could be bred like
animals, like they breed animals. So they would take one strain of
chromosomes and breed a class of men who would make perfect
administrators, and then they would breed another class of men that
would be perfect shudras [workers], and they would breed
another class of men who would be perfect scientists.
Prabhupada: And that is
already there. Guna-karma-vibhagashah [Bhagavad-gita
4.13]. In Vedic astrology, jata-karma, they will say that "This
child is a shudra, this child is a brahmana, this child
is a kshatriya." By the birth, by the constellation of the
stars, it will be done. It is already being done. And in the medical
laboratory, the blood has been tested, brahmana, shudra, vaishya,
there is different blood. Yes. The blood infusion. So if the, a
different blood is infused, it does not act. So one doctor, in India,
he was permanently keeping different bloods for different persons. So
there is some meaning in the caste system. But that is not... In a brahmana
family, a shudra may also take birth. Shudra blood. So
to keep the blood brahminical, therefore the reformatory system is
there, garbhadhana-samskara and all the samskaras.
Before birth, they keep... to keep the blood brahminical, there is
Satsvarupa: Yesterday you
said when one becomes initiated by a bona fide spiritual master, his
Satsvarupa: Even if he was mleccha,
he can become brahmana.
Yogesvara: Actually, the
chemists also say that there are four types of blood, A, AB, O, and
something like that. They give it four names.
Prabhupada: And according to
Hindu system, the marriage was taking place finding, examining the
girl's constitution and the boy's constitution so that there may not be
disruption. Everything was there.
Yogesvara: The Vedic system
is so scientific.
Prabhupada: Oh yes. That is
human civilization. That is Aryan civilization. Vedic civilization
I told that scientist who visited me: "You scientists, you are simply
wasting time." Did I not say that, last night?
Prabhupada: Yes. Childish.
Just imitating barking of the dog. That's all. And he wants to take
credit by imitating barking the dog. And the real dog is barking—no
attention. Actually, that is the position.
When the dog barks, that is not science. When the man barks like a dog,
that is science. Is that not? The man, how scientifically he has
learned how to bark like a dog. This is their aim, how to imitate
dog-barking. This is scientific.
Satsvarupa: On a morning walk
in Los Angeles, Svarupa Damodara said they are now going to produce
babies in a test tube, and you said "But that's already being done in
the womb. That's a very nice test tube." He said, "But he'll get a
Nobel Prize." So that's the example. Nature's already doing it nicely.
Prabhupada: They cannot
produce even a green grass like this in the laboratory, what to speak
of other things.
Yogesvara: If producing life
was worthy of a Nobel Prize, then they should give every mother in the
world a Nobel Prize.
Prabhupada: Yes. Yes.
Yogesvara: Actually, I think
they should give you the Nobel Prize.
Yogesvara: You've been
Prabhupada: Oh, I, I am
natural dog, and they'll not give me prize. [laughs] They'll give prize
to the artificial dog.