Give God the Nobel Prize

Founder-Acharya of the world-wide Hare Krishna Movement, Brahma Sampradaya Acharya

On an early-morning walk, Srila Prabhupada points out to his disciples how insignificant are man's scientific achievements compared to God's limitlessly complex creation. (June 6, 1974, Geneva)

Prabhupada: Just look at this fig. In this one fig, there are thousands of seeds. And each seed contains a tree like that. And there are thousands of fruits, figs. Where is that chemist who can prepare such figs? Once, in Delhi, when our festival was going on, we invited a big chemist. He admitted that "Our chemical advancement, scientific advancement is like this." He explained very nicely. You were present?

Yogesvara: Where?

Prabhupada: In Delhi. He said that a man who has learned the art to, what is called, barking like dog, and people will go to see, purchasing ticket, ten rupees, twenty rupees, how the man is barking like a dog. And there are so many dogs barking. They won't see. This is our advancement. If a man has artificially learned how to bark, they'll go to see by paying fees. And the natural barking, they don't care.

So these rascals are like that. They're trying to manufacture life. And so many life is coming by nature's process, millions and millions, that is no credit. And he's trying, utopian, he'll create life by chemical combination, he's given all credit, Nobel Prize: "Oh, here is a man." This is rascaldom. So what credit you'll get.

Suppose if you can manufacture a man or an animal in the laboratory, where is your credit? There are many millions and millions are coming automatically. We are trying to give credit to Krishna who is making all this creation.

Yogesvara: There is one Englishman named Aldous Huxley...

Prabhupada: Yes.

Yogesvara: ...who wrote a book called Brave New World, and in that book, he predicted something that's coming true now, that there would be a process of biologically screening babies so that men could be bred like animals, like they breed animals. So they would take one strain of chromosomes and breed a class of men who would make perfect administrators, and then they would breed another class of men that would be perfect shudras [workers], and they would breed another class of men who would be perfect scientists.

Prabhupada: And that is already there. Guna-karma-vibhagashah [Bhagavad-gita 4.13]. In Vedic astrology, jata-karma, they will say that "This child is a shudra, this child is a brahmana, this child is a kshatriya." By the birth, by the constellation of the stars, it will be done. It is already being done. And in the medical laboratory, the blood has been tested, brahmana, shudra, vaishya, there is different blood. Yes. The blood infusion. So if the, a different blood is infused, it does not act. So one doctor, in India, he was permanently keeping different bloods for different persons. So there is some meaning in the caste system. But that is not... In a brahmana family, a shudra may also take birth. Shudra blood. So to keep the blood brahminical, therefore the reformatory system is there, garbhadhana-samskara and all the samskaras. Before birth, they keep... to keep the blood brahminical, there is ceremony.

Satsvarupa: Yesterday you said when one becomes initiated by a bona fide spiritual master, his body changes.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Satsvarupa: Even if he was mleccha, he can become brahmana.

Yogesvara: Actually, the chemists also say that there are four types of blood, A, AB, O, and something like that. They give it four names.

Prabhupada: And according to Hindu system, the marriage was taking place finding, examining the girl's constitution and the boy's constitution so that there may not be disruption. Everything was there.

Yogesvara: The Vedic system is so scientific.

Prabhupada: Oh yes. That is human civilization. That is Aryan civilization. Vedic civilization means Aryan.

I told that scientist who visited me: "You scientists, you are simply wasting time." Did I not say that, last night?

Yogesvara: Yes.

Prabhupada: Yes. Childish. Just imitating barking of the dog. That's all. And he wants to take credit by imitating barking the dog. And the real dog is barking—no attention. Actually, that is the position.

When the dog barks, that is not science. When the man barks like a dog, that is science. Is that not? The man, how scientifically he has learned how to bark like a dog. This is their aim, how to imitate dog-barking. This is scientific.

Satsvarupa: On a morning walk in Los Angeles, Svarupa Damodara said they are now going to produce babies in a test tube, and you said "But that's already being done in the womb. That's a very nice test tube." He said, "But he'll get a Nobel Prize." So that's the example. Nature's already doing it nicely.

Prabhupada: They cannot produce even a green grass like this in the laboratory, what to speak of other things.

Yogesvara: If producing life was worthy of a Nobel Prize, then they should give every mother in the world a Nobel Prize.

Prabhupada: Yes. Yes.

Yogesvara: Actually, I think they should give you the Nobel Prize.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Yogesvara: You've been creating devotees.

Prabhupada: Oh, I, I am natural dog, and they'll not give me prize. [laughs] They'll give prize to the artificial dog.