Svarup Damodar: No, what they
are saying is this, that the..., when they examine this body in the
minute details—they call the molecular levels—they find only molecules.
They don't see anything. For example, when they analyze the hand, they
saw it—this is proteins, protein molecules, some fats, some
carbohydrates, and they don't see anything else except molecules. And
at the same time, when they study—they are called the biochemical
pathways in the living cells—they find only these DNA molecules and the
different molecules that carry out different activities. That is why
they say that there is..., what we call life is just nothing but
arrangement of these molecules in different ways. So that's why they
say that "Yes, life started actually from these molecules."
Prabhupada: So why they
cannot produce life from the molecules?
Svarup Damodar: They'd say
that when science started or knowledge started, it takes some time. It
cannot come all in a sudden.
Prabhupada: So what is this
knowledge? The molecules are already there.
Svarup Damodar: But they'll
say in about, say, about two hundred, three hundred years ago, they
didn't know these molecules.
Rupanuga: They say, "Rome
wasn't built in a day."
Prabhupada: No, no. It was
not known to you, but what was the harm? And what is the benefit when
you have known it?
Svarup Damodar: Because, they
say, without knowing, it's not advancement of knowledge.
Prabhupada: But you have not
known it. You have not known it. You cannot claim that you are
advanced. You are still foolish. Why you are claiming advancement? You
have not known it.
Svarup Damodar: Yeah, but
they are saying that "In due course of time we are going to know it."
Prabhupada: Ah, that is
another foolishness. That we do not accept. You have not known it till
now. You are foolish still. That you have to admit. "In future you will
be a rich man, and therefore you give me a post-dated cheque"—who will
accept it? The foolish person will accept it, [laughter] that "I am
giving you the cheque, ten million dollars. You can take it after three
million years [laughter] when I shall become rich." It is a proposal
like that. No intelligent person will accept that cheque.