is Hare Krishna?
Events: Kirtan Festival
2004 - Hansadutta das
|[Posted 8 July 2006]
Utilize for Krishna
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Excerpt from conversation with guests and disciples, Caracas,
February 21, 1975
this story to a friend Printer
Hridayananda: ...If there could be a
Krishna conscious society, would this mean to stop the industry and
technology you can continue, but practically it has no use. [break]
Just like there is the bench, you can sit down on the ground, and to
sit down little comfortably you manufacture the bench. So for sitting
down, you can utilize the ground, but you are unnecessarily wasting
your time and manufacturing... This is industry. [break] Our philosophy
is that we have to save time for becoming fully Krishna conscious. That
is our necessity. And if we divert our energy for sitting down
comfortably, then time is wasted. That... There is natural mattress,
and there is a natural pillow, so why should you manufacture pillow and
mattress? This is Sukadeva Gosvami. And there is natural food, fruits.
So... And if you want still nice home, go to the cave. It is already
made. Why should you waste your time? This is the Bhagavata philosophy.
But they are wasting time simply how to live in nice apartment, how to
manufacture nice mattress, pillow. This is... So the whole philosophy
is: save your time and make your life perfect within this short
duration of life which you have obtained in this human form of life. Durlabham
manusam janma. It is very rarely you have got. Utilize it. And
if you don't utilize, if you waste your time in these bodily comforts
and next life you become a cat and dog, then what is the benefit? They
do not understand this. [break]
Hridayananda: Sometimes they
raise the question... Just like you pointed out in the preface of the
Bhagavatam that we're no longer in the Dark Ages in the sense
that previously there was no communication due to the geographical
boundaries and that even though other forms of technology may be
useless, at least it's very beneficial to have different forms of
communication such as telephone, telegraph, things like this,
television. This is actually necessary.
Prabhupada: But that you can
utilize for spreading Krishna consciousness, not for sense
gratification. That is the defect. They are simply wasting time in
sense gratification. If the telephone and the telegraph, television is
used for propagating Krishna consciousness, then it is all right. But
they are not doing that. We are utilizing the modern press facilities
for printing Vedic scriptures. But they are utilizing the press for sex
literature, Freud's philosophy. [break]
Hridayananda: What is our
policy towards the problem of overpopulation and food shortage in the
world now when the world leaders are not willing to do anything? What
is our policy towards these problems?
Prabhupada: Produce food. But
you are producing bolts and nuts. You eat them. Motor tire, you are
producing motor tire, bolts and nuts. You eat it. [Hridayananda
translates into Spanish] [laughter] The energy is spoiled, creating
problem. Everyone is engaged in manufacturing motor parts.
translates] He's saying that he himself is involved with political
leaders, and he said he's found that they're completely unwilling. They
don't want to hear anything about the solution, and they're completely
stuck to their own way. So what can ISKCON do?
Prabhupada: They will suffer,
Hridayananda: He said is
there anything we can do in the political field to try to...
Prabhupada: If they will not
take, they don't want to hear, then they must suffer.
Hridayananda: He's saying all
the human race is suffering due to the bad points of the leaders.
Prabhupada: Yes, because the
Hridayananda: So there's
nothing that we should do? This food relief program that you started in
India could also be used in other countries where there are also
Prabhupada: Why not? But prasadam,
not ordinary food. From all our centers you can distribute food, prasadam,
because that prasadam means they will gradually become Krishna
conscious. Otherwise if you give them ordinary food, they will get
strength, and they will increase their sex desire, that's all,
Hridayananda: If someone were
to join the movement who previously had been expert in mathematics, how
could he use that for Krishna's service if he's expert in mathematics?
Prabhupada: Mathematics? So
you can calculate, "After so many years the whole universe will be
destroyed." [laughter] Not of the universe but everyone's life. This
body will be destroyed. Bhutva bhutva praliyate [Bhagavad-gita
8.19]. And again you get another body. It will stay for so many years.
Again you annihilate. Again you get. In this way eternal time is being
Hridayananda: In the modern
world the engineers are designing everything. So how can an engineer
use his talent for Krishna?
Prabhupada: Design a temple,
nice temple. There are wonderful temples, very expert engineering. And
they were ordinary men but the engineer was so nice that nobody can
manufacture such temple in the whole world, still.
that was really wonderful, what you explained, that previously the
people would build a very wonderful temple, and the ordinary people
would just live in a very common, simple house.
Prabhupada: Not for
themselves. They knew the art how to manufacture nice building, but
they did not care for personal use. It was used for Krishna. Sometimes
only the kings, in order to keep their position, they used to have
gorgeous building. Otherwise ordinary men, cottage. To live in cottage
means to save time.
Mexican devotee: Srila
Prabhupada, in one of the magazines I read that there was a saint who
he didn't even construct a rug?
Romaharshana. Bhagavad-gita it is said, yajnad
bhavanti parjanyah, yajnad bhavanti parjanyah. If there is
timely cloud and rainfall, this ground can be moistened very easily.
But they won't perform yajna [sacrifice]; therefore there is
scarcity of cloud and rain. Now they have to manufacture this
sprinkler. And it is not perfect.
question, Prabhupada. He said that you have stated that Kali-yuga will
last for around 400,000 more years and then it will be finished and
that the culture will gradually degrade, people will become very short
and so on and so forth. So he's wondering if there will be geographical
changes in the world or if the culture as we know it now will simply
disappear and how the people will be... More or less, he's wondering
what will become of the earth.
Prabhupada: Because they will
not get sufficient food, shelter, bodily necessities. Just like it is
already declining, already declining. Just formerly in our childhood we
saw the Western people very tall. Now they are not tall. They are
decreasing already. In the Western countries, still there are some but
in other countries they are very lean, thin and drawn. Stature of the
body will decrease. Memory will decrease. It is already taking place.
So in this way, you just imagine, in 400,000 years after, what will be
the condition. You take mathematical calculation. [laughter]
Hridayananda: He's asking
again about geographically, what will it be like as far as temperatures
and the different continents. That's what he's interested in.
Prabhupada: Yes, gradually
everything will be barren. At the end of annihilation everything will
be barren and by scorching the sunlight will be twelve times higher. So
everything will be barren and burned into ashes.
Devotee: Hiranyaksha was
taking the gold from the earth. Now they are taking the oil. So the
weight, the oil makes weight in some parts of the globe, no? So when
they take it and they put it some place else or they convert it in the
earth, the earth is losing weights in some parts. That is no going to
Prabhupada: I think I have
explained this. Instead of contemplating what will happen to this
world, you have got a short duration of life, say fifty, sixty years.
You chant Hare Krishna and go back to home, back to Godhead. Don't
consider what will happen to this world. The nature will take care of
it. You don't puzzle your brain with these thoughts. You utilize
whatever time you have got in your possession and go back to home, back
to Godhead. You cannot check it. Best thing is that you mold your life
and go back to home, back to Godhead. "Oil in your own machine."
Instead of thinking what will happen... They will happen. Because
people will go on with their rascal civilization, natural consequences
will be there. You better take advantage of whatever time you have got
and become fully Krishna conscious and go back to home.
They are thinking that we are crazy, and we are thinking, "You are
crazy. You are losing the opportunity of life." Therefore I wrote that "Who is Crazy?" They have got this opportunity,
human form of life, to make a solution of all problems, but they do not
care for it. They are simply allured, the temporary happiness of this
body, and the body will finish within some years. That they do not take
care. They think it is all in all, body.
Hridayananda: So that's
Prabhupada: Yes. Animal
civilization. The animal is running without motor car. We are running
on motor car. That is the difference.
Sri Guru and Gauranga
Technology Won't Help Us
Aim of Life
Karma - Work
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