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2004 - Hansadutta das
| [Posted April 23, 2007]
October, 1993, Singapore
- 21 April 2007 - RUPERT WINGFIELD-HAYES
Moscow's suburb for billionaires
to Forbes magazine Russia now has 60 billionaires.
Unlike Mr Abramovich, most of them live in Moscow, which, if I'm not
much mistaken, makes the Russian capital home to more billionaires than
any other city in the world.
It is quite a change for a place that 15 years ago had no millionaires,
let alone billionaires.
How exactly these people have got hold of such vast wealth in such a
short time is a very good question, and one many ordinary Russians
would like answered.
It is one reason why Russia's richest people like to keep their
identities and their lifestyles secret.
Ever since I arrived in Russia I've heard tall stories of a secret city
deep in the forests outside Moscow where the rich indulge their
fantasies in sprawling palaces of marble and gold. It sounded like a
good story. I didn't expect it to be true, let alone that I'd get an
invite. go to story
that in your soup?
of the People, for the People, by the People
Elected by Fools Hansadutta
then the Americans came. How did they come? “Oh, you should have
democracy. You can vote.” Vote for what? [laughing] Two men are running
for office, and ten million people are voting. So what is the big
choice? Both of them are rogues. [laughter] Fool’s paradise. The people
are foolish, and they are given the right to vote. “You vote.” So
amongst all the fools, they select one grand fool. more
Bhima was telling me about his great grandfather, who went to Bali. And
what they would do, they would put trinkets—
BHIMA: Cloth, shoes, beads—
HANSADUTTA: They laid it on the beach, and then the natives would come.
They thought that the gods had brought it. They would take it back, and
in exchange, they would leave what they thought was their
valuables—rhinoceros horns, whatever. But they were actually valuable
things. The same thing the British did when they came to America. They
gave Indians beads and trinkets and in this way bought off the land. In
the same way, video machines, tape recorders, computers ... all these
so-called modern commodities, amenities such as washing machines and
fax are the same thing. It has no real value.
SITHU: Because we don't know what the soul is.
HANSADUTTA: Right, you don't realise you have such a precious commodity
in yourself, but you have sold it for a few trinkets. That's really
what's happening. You have to graphically throw attention to what's
really happening. I mean, what are people getting? Like Krishna Lila
said, he's got a flat, and he can sell it for a hundred thousand. I
said, "Wow," but he can't get the money. The money has to go to the
CPF. So it doesn't mean anything. It's meaningless.
SITHU: It's a kind of security for Singaporeans, they can get the money
BHIMA: No, only when you pass a certain age.
VRINDARANYA: You cannot take it out. Let's say you migrate, then they
don't allow you to take it out.
BHIMA: They won't allow you to come back.
VRINDARANYA: He'd have to wait for quite some time before they would
give him the money for his flat, and then if he were to migrate and
didn't want to stay here, he'd have to wait to get the money.
HANSADUTTA: How long? Five years?
VRINDARANYA: You have to wait until you're 55 years old.
HANSADUTTA: [laughing] Then there's nothing to spend the money on,
because you're too old to enjoy.
VRINDARANYA: That's why the Malaysians got so upset. They said, "Why we
have to wait until we are 55? They didn't want the money—
HANSADUTTA: They don't want what?
VRINDARANYA: They don't want this money kept for them, because they are
foreigners, they come here and work. After they work, the government
will keep some money for them, and when they are 55 years old, they can
come back and collect that money.
SITHU: But this is cheating, isn't it? I mean, people are putting their
trust and money in the hands of government, and government is giving
them to believe that it's for their own good, that government is
looking after them.
HANSADUTTA: They all do. Roosevelt said, "A chicken
in every pot." Everybody... the people in general are foolish. That's
why they're the people in general. And then the foolish people are
fooled again. They say, "Okay, you can have the right to vote, so you
elect any leader that you like." The foolish people elect a foolish
leader, and he cheats them. And then they think, "Oh, he cheated us. We
have the right to throw him out, and we'll get another leader." But
this process never stops. It's perpetual.
SITHU: This is like a whole big scam that they promise you something
that you look forward to, not that you have lost your money, but they
are holding it, and you are dependent upon that.
HANSADUTTA: By the way, that's one of the qualities of
Kali-yuga—becoming overly dependent on other's mercy, which demoralizes
a man. It's not healthy at all. The only people that are dependent are
the shudras. Shudras are dependent on the brahmanas,
kshatriyas and vaishyas. They assist them, and in exchange
they are maintained with food and clothing. But here they create the
illusion that you are the master, that you are earning so much money so
that you can buy a flat. But actually, everything is controlled by
them. You have no... it's just like "If you don't buy the flat, then
you're out on the street, and if you're out on the street, then you're
in trouble. And if you buy the flat, you can only sell it according to
our direction. And if there's a profit, well, we also have to determine
what to do with that." But people don't see. They're bewildered.
SITHU: I thought it's like stealing.
HANSADUTTA: Most people can't see it.
SITHU: But if you don't want to pay your CPF, then you don't get your
old age security.
VRINDARANYA: That's why it's better to be a full-time devotee. You save
all the trouble. I don't have to pay CPF, nothing. I just do my service
for Krishna, and then there is five hundred dollars there because I was
in the Army. [laughter]
BHIMA: Depend on Krishna, rather than depend on CPF.
HANSADUTTA: By the time you're 55, you're so worn out, you can't do
anything with that money anyway. Besides, that money will be worthless.
BHIMA: They don't give it to you in one lump sum. They give it to you
in small installments.
SITHU: Installments! [laughing]
HANSADUTTA: Well, see, what's happening is... they had the same thing
America. It wasn't exactly compulsory there, but most people did it
because it sounded so good. It's called social security. So these
people have paid social security for twenty, thirty, forty years,
right? But in the meantime, as this time elapsed and they came to that
age (65 there), that money which they saved... Calculating at the age
of 20, when they began, that at the age of 65 they will have x
amount of dollars—but inflation from that point to this point was so
great that by the time you get it, it's not enough to live on even.
HANSADUTTA: So they just scammed them. Meanwhile, they have used the
money, invested it and re-invested it a hundred times, and by the time
you come to that age and you get that money, you cannot live on that
money. It's not enough. It's just not enough to live on.
BHIMA: Three months ago, I heard on the BBC about the Russian
situation. A soldier had spent his whole life working, and when he
comes out and tries to find a place, he couldn't find a place. And he
wanted to buy a suit. And his whole savings... I don't know how many
thousand—23 thousand rubles—he couldn't even buy a good suit today. A
suit! His whole life savings. And he was immediately finished.
HANSADUTTA: There was a political cartoon in one of the newspapers. The
Russian housewife and the worker man. He just came home and was sitting
down to a bowl of soup, and he was eating the soup. And he was saying
to her, "Is this what you bought with our hard-earned rubles?" And she
replied, "Those are the rubles." [laughter] In Germany—my father used
to tell this story—in Germany, after the war, inflation was so out of
sight, and it was running rampant, so the story is that people were
waiting in line to buy bread, and he needed so much money. He needed so
much money just to buy a loaf of bread, because inflation was so crazy.
It cost like a million marks to buy a loaf of bread. The people were
standing in line, and this one guy was there with a whole wheelbarrow
full of money. But in the meantime, as he was waiting in line,
inflation had gone up so much and the price of the bread had gone up so
that he didn't have enough money. So he told one friend, "You wait here
and watch my money. I have to run and get some more money and come
back." So he went, but when he got back, his money was lying there, but
the wheelbarrow was gone. [laughter] The money was worthless.
Anyway, this is the history of all these materialistic societies. The
leaders are godless. The leader is supposed to be Naradeva,
representative of God on earth or God amongst men, the King. And he
rules the citizens and manages the resources of the land on behalf of
God. So when the leader is godless, he can only be a cheater. He cannot
be honest. Because honesty begins with this point. He has to first of
all establish his identity in relationship to God, as God's servant,
and on behalf of God ruling the people. If a person is godless, he is a
Now everyone comes up with a clever program, so the people are
befooled, but a person who is God conscious will understand how it is
going on. Prabhupada used to say, "If a person is not a devotee, he
cannot be trusted."
Sri Guru and Gauranga
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