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Liberated Woman: Out of Place
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
April 10, 2002—MAUREEN DOWD—
He said he had wanted to ask me out on a date when he was between
marriages, but nixed the idea because my job made me too intimidating.
told me, prefer women who seem malleable and overawed. He said I would
never find a mate, because if there's one thing men fear, it's a woman
who uses her critical faculties. Will she be critical of absolutely
Now comes Time magazine with an equally distressing
commentary. The cover story offers the scariest statistics for women
since Newsweek declared in 1986 that a 40-year-old woman
was more likely to be killed by a terrorist than to tie the knot. full story
Morning Walk with Dr. Patel, January 9, 1977, Bombay
I condemn everyone, that "You are all dogs and hogs." And United
Nations a pack of dogs barking. That's a fact. And in Chicago I said,
all women, "You cannot have freedom. You have got only thirty-four
ounce brain, and man has got sixty-four ounce." I told them. So I
became a subject of very great criticism.
Trivikrama: Women's liberation.
Prabhupada: I denied, "No, you cannot have." I told them.
One girl in the airship, she was seeing like ... [makes some gesture.
Laughter]. I asked her, "Give me 7-Up." "It is locked now." So I
frankly said that "No, no. You cannot have equal rights because your
brain is thirty-four ounce." Actually that's a fact. Where is woman
philosopher, mathematician, scientist? Not a single.
Dr. Patel: Apart from that, I mean, they are made for a
Prabhupada: How they can have equal rights? Up to date in
the history there is not a single woman who is a great scientist or
great philosopher or great...
Dr. Patel: Madame Curie was a...
Prabhupada: All bogus. [laughter]
Dr. Patel: You are getting too harsh on them because...
Prabhupada: No, no. How can I give you equal rights,
because your brain is less substance.
Dr. Patel: We cannot degrade our mothers that way.
Prabhupada: It is not degrading. It is accepting the
Dr. Patel: These girls are misled, these American girls.
Prabhupada: There is no history. There is no history. Just
like Kunti is mother. She produced so many heroes, but she was not
hero. She could produce heroes like Arjuna, like Bhima. But not that
she becomes hero.
Dr. Patel: Mother can produce heroes...
Prabhupada: That's all right. Still, nobody will say that
Kunti is as good as Arjuna or Bhima.
Dr. Patel: How can anybody say?
Prabhupada: That is... How you'll get the equal rights?
Dr. Patel: No woman smaller than Kunti could have produced
Prabhupada: You can produce. That is another thing. A cook
can produce foodstuff suitable for rich man, but that does not mean he
is rich man.
Dr. Patel: You argue. [laughs]
Hansadutta: Prabhupada, you told one story about the
animals having a meeting and trying to become free from the control of
Dr. Patel: Our shastras say [cites Sanskrit text].
Prabhupada: [Speaks Sanskrit.] Everyone is [speaks
Sanskrit]. That is according to his position. That does not mean equal.
Krishna Himself worshiped Sudama Vipra. That does not mean Sudama Vipra
is as good as the Personality of Godhead. When Narada was coming in
Dvaraka, Krishna immediately got down and... Narada was smiling, "Just
see the fun." But etiquette. Narada never said that "I am better than
Krishna or equal to Krishna." Never said.
Trivikrama: Maharaja Yudhisthira the same.
Prabhupada: Yes. Everyone. Everyone knew their position.
Therefore Krishna is addressed by Arjuna, "Achyuta, You promised to
drive my chariot, therefore I'm asking You. Don't forget. You never
deviate from Your promise." Achyuta. Senayor ubhayor
madhye ratham sthapaya me 'chyuta [Bhagavad-gita
1.21]. "Don't forget that You are Achyuta. Don't think that I am Your
servant, I am ordering." He knows that "I am servant of Krishna. I am
Hansadutta: You were explaining to that reporter in
Pennsylvania, Srila Prabhupada, that actually this women's liberation
is just a trick by the men.
Prabhupada: Yes! It is trick by the men, yes.
Dr. Patel: How... Could you explain that?
Prabhupada: Because if they remain free, they get young
women free. That's rascal's man brain. That "You take freedom."
Dr. Patel: This is a third-class argument.
Prabhupada: This is argument! This is argument. This is
fact. These rascals keep these women unmarried to enjoy daily new, new
young women, these karmis, these rascals. There is club. There
is club. These young women are paid for that topless, bottomless. You
do not know.
Dr. Patel: No. I have never seen a girl naked. I refuse
Prabhupada: I have... I know everything.
Hansadutta: Prabhupada, you gave the example that what is
the use of keeping a cow if you can get milk in the marketplace.
Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. Cow-keeping is expensive.
Dr. Patel: Why keep a cow when milk is available. [laughs]
Trivikrama: It's a fact. The young men think like that.
Prabhupada: They make pregnant and they go away. And this
poor girl, either she has to kill the child or beg from the government,
"Give me welfare; otherwise..." Is that freedom? These rascal woman...
Dr. Patel: This is freedom. Actually the government
Prabhupada: Government means a set of rascals. But
practical point of view the woman wants equal right. Equal rights they
enjoy, and the woman becomes pregnant, and he goes away, the boy. And
she has to kill the child or beg from the government. This is her
freedom. And still, equal rights. Where equal right? The boy has gone
away. You also go away? No. You'll have to carry the child. To get
freedom you have to kill or you have to beg. And still she thinks, "I