SYAMASUNDAR: Srila Prabhupada, what is your view of the future, the history, the future history?
PRABHUPADA: Oh, that is there, described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. The governmental power will go to the rascals and thieves, rogues. And their only business will be how to exploit the people. So one side, by not sufficient rain, there will be scarcity of foodstuff, and one side, the government will tax like anything. In this way, people will be so much harassed that they will give up their hearth and home and go to the forest.
DR. ARNOLD TOYNBEE: Yes.
PRABHUPADA: This will be done in Kali-yuga. And gradually, there will be no supply of grains. Especially rice, wheat, sugar, milk, these things will be finished. So people will be obliged to take flesh. These are all stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam.
SYAMASUNDAR: In that case, is there any hope in a movement like ours to rectify the situation.
PRABHUPADA: Yes. If they take to Krishna consciousness. That is also stated, kirtanad eva krishnasya mukta-sangah param vrajet [SB 12.3.51]. Kirtanad, by Krishna consciousness, one can become free from all these calamities and go back to home, back to Godhead. Only Krishna conscious people will be free from all these calamities. Others will have to suffer. SYAMASUNDAR: So societies in general will not improve, but more people... PRABHUPADA: Improve... Major portion is stated like that. But there is always light and darkness. Always. So the light party will be also there. This is the only, that take to Krishna consciousness. That is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. Kaler dosha-nidhe rajann asti hy eko mahan gunah. In the Kali-yuga, it is an ocean of faults. Dosha-nidhi. Nidhi means ocean, and dosha means faults. But there is one opportunity. Kaler dosha-nidhe rajann asti hy eko mahan gunah. Very great profit. What is that? Kirtanad eva krishnasya. Simply by chanting Krishna's name and becoming Krishna conscious, one shall be freed from all these calamities and he'll go back to home, back to Godhead. Simply by this. Kirtanad eva krishnasya. This very word is used. Mukta-sangah param vrajet. So this is the only shelter. If people take to Krishna consciousness, they'll be saved from all the calamities of this age. Otherwise, there is no other... Now they are going to the forest, the hippies. Eh? Acchinna-dara-dravina gacchanti giri-kananam. Giri-kananam means to the forests, to the hills. They'll go. Acchinna-dara-dravinam. Dara means wife, and dravina means money. So they'll be separated from wife and money, and they'll go to the forest and hills, being disappointed. This is happening already.