Prabhupada: So we have to touch all these.
Then poverty... And "Drive away poverty. Give them more money." More
money means cheating. You are employing; I am employed. Begins from
government. More money and printing, they are coming. If I have got
power to print paper and distribute it as money, you are dissatisfied,
getting hundred rupees, you want two hundred, so what is to me? I print
and give you. This is artificial inflation.
Tamal Krsna: More money means
printing more bills.
Tamal Krsna: Yeah, but you
haven't increased the...
Prabhupada: And your enemy
country, they're actually happy. They print exactly money like this.
They come and purchase goods and give you fortune, anybody. I know.
Then what is the difficulty? Suppose this American dollar, is it very
difficult to print? So the Chinese, they are America's enemy, they can
print, bring millions of dollars and purchase from your country and
export to his country and give you some paper. You are... What you can
Tamal Krsna: Well, we can
only hope that we'll catch them. We hope that we'll catch them.
Prabhupada: That is another
thing, "when we catch." Who will catch? "Bell the cat." It is going on.
I know. During wartime, one Chinese man was coming from China, and one
business friend, he was appointed his purchasing agent. He was giving a
list of goods to purchase. And this man, whatever money he'll charge,
- Indian currency. He'll not say, "Why so much price?" No. Then he will
pack up the goods and through some channel he'll dispatch it. That is
also through our way, not in the... The China is in on the border.
There also, if you pay money, smuggler's rate... They try to do.
Tamal Krsna: That seems to be
a big issue now, these smugglers. I notice in the newspapers every day.
Prabhupada: The smugglers get
with money, printed money. Who can check it?
Tamal Krsna: So printed money
should have gold behind it.
that is the
theory. What is the rate of economy?
Tamal Krsna: What is the
Prabhupada: That is called...
Tamal Krsna: Gold standard.
Prabhupada: Not gold
standard, but there is a technical name. That means if you print notes,
currency note, immediately you have to keep stock of gold in the
reserve bank. Reserve. Therefore it is called...
Tamal Krsna: The gold
Prabhupada: Gold reserve.
Gold reserve, yes. At least forty percent.
Tamal Krsna: What's the idea
Prabhupada: What is that? The
idea is cheating. The cheating business begins from the government. And
why people will not learn to cheat? This is cheating. I am giving you
one paper, one hundred rupees, dollars, and you are happy: "I have got
so many ..." I am giving you check, ten thousand dollars. You got ten
thousand dollars. Now I give you a paper. But it is going on. We have
made machinery in such a way that it will go on in hundred rupees or
ten thousand rupees. Just like this fixed deposit. I am giving actual
money; they are giving a receipt. And it will increase. What increase?
The same paper. And gradually inflation is going on. They'll pay at the
Tamal Krsna: Well, they say
they're paying at the investment rate.
Prabhupada: That is, mean,
their plea. Really, today... Just like in our childhood my father had
three hundred rupees, and that three hundred rupees is now ten
thousand. So if my father would have deposited three hundred rupees at
that time, automatically he has become ten thousand... So if you pay me
instead of three hundred, say, six hundred or eight hundred, what is
your loss? It has already become ten thousand.
Tamal Krsna: Well, it's
practical also, because supposing I have a cow...
Prabhupada: But it may be...
This cheating is going on.
Tamal Krsna: But is it...
What I'm asking is this: Supposing you have a cow, and you give to me a
cow, so from that cow I get from you...
Prabhupada: That I
understand, that in
twenty years you get another..., same money. That is another. But
another side is the money is gradually losing its purchasing value.
Tamal Krsna: That's a fact.
That's a fact.
Prabhupada: My father with
three hundred rupees, he was... What he was doing? If you want to do
that thing now, you'll require ten thousand.
Tamal Krsna: That means some
cheating is going on.
Tamal Krsna: Government,
through the government.
Prabhupada: Somewhere or
other. Things are there. The rice are there, the dal is there,
the cloth is there, but what he purchased at three hundred rupees, now
you have to pay ten thousand.
Tamal Krsna: That means
they've introduced more and more notes without any gold in their banks.
Tamal Krsna: Cheating. That's
Tamal Krsna: What is the
implication of this cheating? What are the ramifications, the results?
Prabhupada: Result is that as
we say always, that conditioned soul has a tendency to cheat. So they
are utilizing this conditional qualification.
Tamal Krsna: With which
Prabhupada: Result is
nothing. Therefore we say it is dogs' race, imagination that "We are
becoming happy." He's becoming implicated in karma, cheating karma,
and losing the opportunity of human life. Instead of applying his
energy and intelligence how to become Krishna conscious and get out of
this, he is becoming expert in cheating and suffering. Then you become
mouse. Unless you cheat, you cannot eat even.
Tamal Krsna: So the leaders
of government, they are encouraging like that. Instead of encouraging
honesty and work according to the varnas, chatur-varnyam,
they are doing like this to become...
Prabhupada: There is no
honesty all over the world. It is a forgotten. "These are primitive,"
they say, "Now, the honesty, to become pious, to become religious.
These are simply primitive idea." We have to open this. That is a
specific subject matter of that... But we have to write very nicely.
Everything is based on
tatha dehantara-praptih [Bhagavad-gita 2.13].
'smin yatha dehe/
kaumaram yauvanam jara/
dhiras tatra na muhyati : "As the embodied soul continually
passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul
similarly passes into another body at death. The self-realized soul is
not bewildered by such a change. " (Bhagavad-gita 2.13)