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by Narottama dasa Thakura
prasade bhai, e bhava toriya yai
The lotus feet of our spiritual master are the only way by which we can attain pure devotional service. I bow down to his lotus feet with great awe and reverence. By his grace one can cross the ocean of material suffering and obtain the mercy of Krishna.
chittete koriya aikya
rati, ei sei uttama-gati
My only wish is to have my consciousness purified by the words emanating from his lotus mouth. Attachment to his lotus feet is the perfection that fulfils all desires.
dilo yei, janme janme prabhu sei
yaha hoite, avidya vinasha yate
He opens my darkened eyes and fills my heart with transcendental knowledge. He is my Lord birth after birth. From him ecstatic prema emanates; by him ignorance is destroyed. The Vedic scriptures sing of his character.
karuna-sindhu, adhama janara bandhu
ha prabhu koro doya, deho more pada-chaya
Our spiritual master is the ocean of mercy, the friend of the poor, and the lord and master of the devotees. O master! Be merciful unto me. Give me the shade of your lotus feet. Your fame is spread all over the three worlds.
The following paper was first published in 1993.
Today we received a barrage of papers in the mail regarding the "Gopi Bhavas," namely, Tamal Krishna Goswami, Giriraja Maharaja, Jadurani devi dasi and Bhurijana Prabhu. These transcripts concern their involvement with Narayana Maharaja of the Gaudiya Math. Because the volume of paperwork is too much to copy and mail out, we will assume that the reader has either read, heard or has access to the transcripts. If not, anyone desiring to have a copy of the transcripts in question can write to Nama Hatta at Geyserville and we will forward a copy to them.
Without going over every point in the transcripts, which consists of lectures, conversations, meetings and letters from concerned devotees, we shall comment only on the main points in this whole affair. Our comments are random, not in order and formulated over a period of a week or two, as inspiration moved us.
Co-operate with Gaudiya Math???
Giriraja Swami has written a paper suggesting strongly that ISKCON should co-operate with the Gaudiya Math. There is no harm in uniting with Gaudiya Math, but that consideration can only be entertained as long as we keep Srila Prabhupada as the central pivot of such co-operation. In other words, both the Gaudiya Math and the ISKCON devotees, both leaders and followers, must act subordinately to the Sampradaya Acharya, Srila Prabhupada, and act as his representatives.
There is no use in giving analytical attention to the speech of Narayana Maharaja or Tamal Krishna Goswami, nor to the paper written by Giriraja in favour of uniting ISKCON and the Gaudiya Math. The fact that any disciple, especially a leading so-called guru-acharya of ISKCON, would betray Srila Prabhupada on such whimsical and absurd grounds in favour of a so-called rasika bhava guru is the only point to be considered.
Giriraja Swami wants to present himself as a gopi bhava, rasika bhava, advanced devotee. But at every public function, including a normal morning Bhagavatam class, Giriraja Swami falls asleep, drooling saliva from his lips. Is this the sign of a rasika bhava, advanced devotee of the Lord? Or is it the sign of a bored devotee who cannot remain awake during theBhagavatam class? (Video tape available.)
How Will They be able to Counter the Poison?
The fact is that all these so-called ISKCON leaders, both the Gopi Bhava Club adherents and the GBC conservatives (who are up in arms) are actually the cause of the present perverted behaviour, popularly known as the Gopi Bhava Club. Both camps have disobeyed Srila Prabhupada, the Sampradaya Acharya, by allowing Srila Prabhupada to be neglected and eclipsed by the unauthorised assumption of the guru-acharyas immediately after Srila Prabhupada's disappearance in 1977. Instead of acting as rittvik acharyas and keeping Srila Prabhupada in the centre of the world-wide Vaishnava community, as Srila Prabhupada instructed in his July 9th, 1977 letter naming 11 rittvik acharyas, the GBC allowed the so-called guru-acharyas to take the position which only Srila Prabhupada, as the Sampradaya Acharya, should occupy. Now the question is what can be done? The answer is simply bring back Srila Prabhupada as our only saviour and worship him sincerely as the Sampradaya Acharya. Simultaneously, dismiss all so-called guru-acharyas, especially gopi bhava, rasika bhava, rasa tattva gurus and re-evaluate and reconsider them to act as rittviks of the Acharya, provided they are qualified. But this will be difficult, if not impossible, to implement, because both the rasa tattva, gopi bhava group and the concerned GBC conservatives are both guilty of guru aparadha--the former by usurping Prabhupada's position of Sampradaya Acharya and establishing themselves as guru-acharyas and the latter for allowing this to happen in the first place and for allowing it to continue to happen in spite of so much protest and evidence to the contrary, including the fall of six of the eleven gurus .
What will happen now? For fear of being excluded from the Guru Club, the conservative GBC party will try for some compromise, and the Gopi Bhavas will prevail. The Gaudiya Math will have succeeded in driving Srila Prabhupada out of ISKCON as an ordinary guru who could give only the basic thing and left the higher thing to be taught by them (Gaudiya Math, rasika bhava gurus ). Thus the mission established by Srila Prabhupada will be effectively drained of all potency for future preaching as envisioned by Srila Prabhupada, thanks to the handle that lent itself to the axe to chop down the tree of Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON. In this case, the handle is Tamal Krishna Goswami and others of like mind.
The best course of action at this time would be to expel Tamal Krishna Goswami, Giriraja, Bhurijana Prabhu and Narayana Maharaja (gang of four) and revert back to Acharya worship of Srila Prabhupada, thus setting the whole mission back on track and opening the door to all of Srila Prabhupada's disciples to return back to ISKCON under one perfect leader, Srila Prabhupada. This would re-unite ISKCON in the only way possible, namely with Srila Prabhupada in the centre as the Sampradaya Acharya and all others, including the so-called guru-acharyas, as Srila Prabhupada's servants, as it was when Srila Prabhupada was with us physically and as he meant it to be after his departure, as per his letter of July 9th, 1977 (" Act as rittvik of the Acharya ").
The Gopi Bhavas and the GBC conservatives are like two thieves who conspire to rob a bank but run into unexpected opposition, resulting in one of them killing a bank officer. The one thief is shocked that the other thief has gone overboard, and he becomes panic-stricken, because he was not prepared to commit murder, but only wanted to steal the money from the bank. At the same time, he is unable to extricate himself from sharing the guilt with his partner in crime. Unwillingly he must go along with his partner who has committed the murder. In a similar way, one party illegally usurped the position ofguru-acharyas, while the other party, the GBC, participated passively, allowing it to happen. Now one party, specifically the Gopi Bhava club, is committing murder of Srila Prabhupada by declaring Srila Prabhupada as a guru of minor importance--"He gave only the basic thing." The higher thing we can get by installing Narayana Maharaja and co-operating with the Gaudiya Math. The conservative party, the GBC, is shocked, but what can they do? They are also implicated in the original crime of guru aparadha, having disobeyed the order of the Acharya, Srila Prabhupada. Therefore they will not be able to counteract or stop the poisoning effects of the Gopi Bhava club in ISKCON. Nor will they be able to counteract Narayana Maharaja's sinister influence spreading through the rank and file of ISKCON devotees. Only wholesale, unconditional surrender unto the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada can save the situation, but that they will not do. The GBCs will reluctantly go along with the murderous Gopi Bhava Club and allow Srila Prabhupada to be disgraced and his mission to be destroyed, all in the hopes of keeping their position and sharing in the prospects of future positions asguru-acharyas, like their Gopi Bhava god-brothers.
He was not a servant of Krishna
We should note that Narayana Maharaja uses the same arguments and statements made by Srila Sridhara Swami, when he became the subject of controversy some years ago--"He was my shiksha guru, but he was also my friend. They should not think that I should treat Srila Prabhupada as they are treating to their master." By this statement, Narayana Maharaja minimises Srila Prabhupada's position as the Sampradaya Acharya. He suggests, "Prabhupada was my friend." In other words, Narayana Maharaja and Srila Prabhupada are on an equal footing, and he may be seen by some foolish western disciples as a great shakti-avesha avatara and Sampradaya Acharya, but "We Gaudiya Math, rasika bhava gurus know that Swamiji was simply another guru in a crowd of gurus and he could not give but the basic thing, and left the higher thing to be given by us."
Narayana Maharaja goes on to belittle Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, saying it was not His business to preach, but such lowly activities are performed by Maha-Vishnu. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's only business was rasaniryasa .
Then he goes on to belittle all Vaishnavas who adore Chaitanya Mahaprabhu as the yuga-avatar and His preaching of the Holy Name. He belittles Srila Prabhupada again as a foolish simpleton who also preached the Holy Name and Bhagavad-gita. Then he says, "So I want to say that your Prabhupada has given those things, only these things, and not beyond these things, then he was only the servant of Maha-Vishnu."
The Wise Ones
Then Narayana Maharaja proceeds to tell us of those who are wise and accepted initiation from a Vaishnava rasika bhava bhakta of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, who like Ramananda Raya, Swarupa Damodara, Rupa Goswami, Raghunatha Goswami and their generation up to Vishvanath Chakravarti, Bhaktivinoda and Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada and "my Gurudeva" (omitting Srila Prabhupada),"Those who have given their heart to them and have realised anything, very little, they can realise these things."
So according to Narayana Maharaja, Srila Prabhupada does not even rate as one of the disciples in the disciplic succession. Narayana Maharaja's guru--whose name no one has ever heard, because not only he, but every single one of the so-called Gaudiya Math gurus after Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada never did anything of note--is given recognition, but Srila Prabhupada, who is known world-wide, has been dismissed as being a mere servant of Maha-Vishnu, an ignorant guru who wasted his time giving the basic thing, the Holy Name, Bhagavad-gita, etc. The wise ones will understand about rasatattva from the Vaishnava rasika guru, such as Narayana Maharaja.
Then he goes on to flatter Tamal Krishna Goswami and Giriraja as the ones (right and left hands) who were running the whole movement while Prabhupada was here, completely disregarding the thousands of sincere boys and girls world-wide who risked their lives and gave their time, blood, energy and intelligence to push on the Krishna consciousness movement for Srila Prabhupada.
Not at all a devotee
By claiming to be a Vaishnava rasika guru, absorbed in the higher thing, rasa tattva, as opposed to the basic sadhana bhakti--hearing, chanting, remembering, etc.--one immediately becomes impudent and disqualified. This whole affair of gopi bhava, rasa tattva is a blatant exhibition of pride and arrogance. Such boastful, sahajiya types should be rejected and avoided at all costs. Lord Chaitanya's prayer is: "Although You make Yourself available easily by chanting Your Holy Name, I have no attraction for this chanting." An advanced devotee never claims or boasts of his advancement. In fact, it is the symptom of the most elevated maha-bhagavata to think himself the most wretched of all. In fact, he claims that he is in fact not at all a devotee, but sees everyone else nicely engaged in the service of the Lord.
The attempt to teach rasa tattva by systematic discussion and practice is like trying to teach the child within the womb to walk and talk. It is simply not possible. But soon after coming out of the womb, the child naturally will walk and talk by regular association of walking and talking brothers, sisters, father, mother, relatives, etc. What is the use of discussing rasatattva with neophyte devotees who have not yet advanced to the stage of staying awake at Bhagavatam class or fail to attend it altogether and have not developed a taste or steadiness or attachment for the vibration of the chanting of the Holy Name of Krishna? The fact that the rasika bhava devotees allow themselves to be embroiled in squabbles and controversies over the validity or invalidity of their position and their pursuit of rasatattva and their loyalty and affection and obsession with Narayana Maharaja and co-operation with Gaudiya Math is in itself testimony of their mundane, mediocre, sahajiya mentality. What more can be said about them?
When we first heard of the Gopi Bhava Club, we dismissed it as the activities of some foolish neophyte devotees in Vrindavan, thinking that they would fade away as quickly as they came into being. When we were further informed that the Gopi Bhava Club was headed up by some staunch disciples and one-time vigorous preachers of Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON, namely Tamal Krishna Goswami and Giriraja Swami, we thought someone must be joking or making up malicious rumours. When the rumours were repeatedly confirmed as fact from numerous reliable sources, along with actual transcripts and lectures of Tamal Krishna Goswami and Narayana Maharaja and Giriraja Swami, we were stunned with disbelief and disappointment. When we read the transcript of Tamal Krishna Goswami, Giriraja Swami and Bhurijana and others pushing their Vaishnavagopi bhava, rasika guru Narayana Maharaja and their propaganda to have ISKCON co-operate with Gaudiya Math without any shame, fear or remorse, we became angry, frustrated and depressed. In 1992, on the occasion of Srila Prabhupada's disappearance day at the Krishna Balarama Mandir, Narayana Maharaja said the same thing he said recently at Prabhupada's sannyasa initiation day: "Swami Maharaja had only a little time, and he could not give it all. He gave the basic thing (The higher thing you can get now from us)." At that time, Tamal Krishna Goswami was already thick and thin with Narayana Maharaja. When we challenged Tamal Krishna Goswami on this obviously offensive statement, he tried to brush it aside as a misunderstanding on our part, but now we hear the same thing again from Narayana Maharaja, and this time Tamal Krishna Goswami, Giriraja Swami, Bhurijana Prabhu and others are in full support without any shame. They not only sit idly by, allowing such offensive talk, but they adore the person as their new-found, rasika bhava guru, disregarding Srila Prabhupada and all his sincere devotees. In ordinary language we would call this sort of behaviour treason, betrayal or prostitution.
Tamal Krishna Goswami and Giriraja Swami talk of Prabhupada as if he were simply another one of innumerable gurus who maintain a temple and dozen disciples who beg some money for their guru to insure their rice,dahl and chapatis. If Narayana Maharaja and other Vaishnavarasika gurus are so highly elevated in Krishna consciousness, why is it that they have never been able to accomplish anything of significance, either before Srila Prabhupada began his ISKCON preaching activities in 1965 or during the time (1965-1977) that Srila Prabhupada was preaching world-wide and establishing ISKCON or since the disappearance of Srila Prabhupada to the present day (1977-1994)? What has Narayana Maharaja done? What has any other Gaudiya Math sadhu done? Why should Srila Prabhupada be compared to them? How many books printed, how many temples, guest houses, farm communities, foreign disciples, how many trips around the world, TV and radio, university appearances? What has any Gaudiya Math guru done? Just give some account of their tangible contributions to preaching the mission of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.
People talk of devotees and gurus as if they were a dime a dozen, the common, everyday commodity, but the fact is to date we have only one pure devotee in whom we can rest our faith, Srila Prabhupada, the Sampradaya Acharya. He is like butter, and the others are like margarine. He is gold, others are like brass. Everyone wants to be the guru, the saviour of the fallen souls. Everyone has got the heart disease of lust, and it is especially permanent in the shape of pratistha ("I am the guru. All others are to serve me and follow my command").
How deep the mountain is???
On the one hand Narayana Maharaja says Srila Prabhupada is his guru and friend, then later he belittles his guru and friend by saying he merely gave the basic thing; whereas he, Narayana Maharaja, a rasika bhava guru, will give the higher thing. To accept one as guru means surrender, unconditionally, just as Arjuna surrendered to Krishna. Arjuna and Krishna were also friends, but when Arjuna surrendered to Krishna, friendship stopped, and master and disciple relationship began. So Narayana Maharaja claims that he accepted Srila Prabhupada as guru, then he says that Srila Prabhupada was also his friend. Then he said that Srila Prabhupada gave only the basic thing, and he proceeds to enumerate a list of rasika bhava gurus in the disciplic succession, including Srila Bhaktisiddhanta and his (Narayana Maharaja's) own guru and stops there, not naming or mentioning Srila Prabhupada, yet obviously indicating himself as the present Vaishnava rasika bhava guru . Then he says, "They know how high the mountain is, but they don't know how deep the mountain is." But what is the meaning of his little quip? Whoever cares how deep the mountain is? Of what necessity or practical value is it to know how deep the mountain is? How will that help one to climb and reach the mountain peak? I don't get it. Does anyone get the point?
The Mafia should surrender
Giriraja Swami proposes and argues that ISKCON should co-operate with Gaudiya Math and tries to impress us that Srila Prabhupada wanted this co-operation. But what Srila Prabhupada wanted was that everyone--the government, educators, religionists, scientists, hippies, Gaudiya Math, etc.--should co-operate with him and his ISKCON devotees to spread Krishna consciousness all over the world. He did not want us to co-operate with them, but them to co-operate with him and his movement, ISKCON. Giriraja Swami suggests ISKCON co-operate with Gaudiya Math. This is preposterous. First of all, there is no united Gaudiya Math mission. It was destroyed by the disobedient leaders immediately after the disappearance of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada, just as ISKCON is being destroyed by its disobedient leaders, GBCs and gurus, who have disregarded Srila Prabhupada's order--"Act as rittvik of the Acharya." The chief disobeyers are Tamal Krishna and Giriraja, who at this very moment of writing are suggesting ISKCON co-operate with the Gaudiya Math. This is like suggesting that the USA government co-operate with the Mafia. What need is there on the part of the government to co-operate with the Mafia? It should be the other way around. The Mafia should surrender and co-operate with the United States government.
So the same conclusion: Srila Prabhupada must be accepted as the Sampradaya Acharya. All ISKCON leaders and then Gaudiya Math leaders must be unconditionally surrendered to him, Srila Prabhupada, as the perfect leader around whom all devotees world-wide can unite and co-operate to spread Krishna consciousness effectively.
But ever since ISKCON leaders have dismissed Srila Prabhupada from their association and have appointed themselves (with the sanction of the GBC) as theguru-acharyas of ISKCON, there has been no unity, no life in ISKCON, what to speak of the Gaudiya Math, who disobeyed the order of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada and subsequently tried to obstruct, criticise or just ignore Srila Prabhupada and the great mission he initiated world-wide, known as ISKCON. It is ridiculous for Giriraja to suggest that ISKCON co-operate with the Gaudiya Math. ISKCON cannot even co-operate with ISKCON. How would they co-operate with the Gaudiya Math?
For the Sake of Argument
Even if we were to concede, for the sake of argument, that Srila Prabhupada only gave the basic thing (that he was not a servant of Krishna, but a servant of MahaVishnu only), why should Narayana Maharaja speak such things in public? And then before leading disciples of Srila Prabhupada? And why did the leading disciples--Tamal Krishna Goswami, Giriraja Swami, Bhurijana Prabhu, etc.--not speak up and defend their spiritual master, Srila Prabhupada, against such malicious, belittling and offensive remarks?
Why do they now haggle and argue their determination to accept Narayana Maharaja as their teacher, guru, authority and well-wisher and dismiss Srila Prabhupada as a mere simpleton who could teach only the basic thing and left the higher thing to Gaudiya Math, rasika bhava gurus to teach Prabhupada's disciples?
Some Devotees Shocked
In one of the letters received in this barrage of papers regarding the Gopi Bhava club, some devotees are shocked, it said, that leaders and rank and file devotees could participate in this kind of belittling and offensive talk and behaviour towards Srila Prabhupada, but on the other hand, they allowed Tamal Krishna Goswami and all the so-called guru-acharyas and GBC to push Srila Prabhupada aside to make way for the "new guru-acharyas" back in 1977, immediately after the disappearance of Srila Prabhupada.
Those devotees were not shocked then, because at that time they envisioned themselves as one day sharing in the booty of the guru-acharya prestige which their god-brothers had so arrogantly assumed. Now that these same men had gone too far by boldly declaring Srila Prabhupada as a mere ordinary guru who is only capable of giving the basic, general thing, they are shocked. Why? Because they do not see how they will get their share of theguru-acharya loot if Narayana Maharaja, rasika bhava acharya, becomes the prominent figure in the scheme of things. Therefore they do not want Narayana Maharaja; they want Srila Prabhupada as the centre, because it is easier to exploit Srila Prabhupada's legacy. After all, Srila Prabhupada is dead and gone. If Narayana Maharaja is heralded as a rasika bhava Vaishnava surpassing Srila Prabhupada, how will these aspiring guru-acharyas realise their ambition? This is the real undercurrent of their concern.
Don't Get Caught In-between
What is the use of entering into the midst of these two contending camps? Both are disloyal or disobedient to the order of Srila Prabhupada--"Act as rittvik of the Acharya." Their struggle with one another is really about who will wield the power of authority in ISKCON. Will it be the GBC? Or will it be the gurus? This point is clearly expressed by Giriraja Swami during his meeting in Mayapur, where he challenges the authority of the GBC in the following way:
But I would raise another point. To what extent is it the business of the GBC to try to regulate such instruction? The GBC tried to regulate or certify Vaishnava literature through the apasiddhanta, or breach of Vaishnava etiquette. For example, when Hari Sauri's first diary came out, things were published that shouldn't have appeared, in terms of Prabhupada's direct instruction, and in terms of Vaishnava etiquette. And the book, having the official GBC ISKCON Review Board certificate, put us in an awkward position, as much as the GBC was in an awkward position when the official GBC-approved gurus fell down. So I think it is neither realistic nor practical nor advisable for the GBC to try to take the position of assessing Gaudiya Vaishnavas and certifying that one is good for association and another is not. Srila Prabhupada has given so many instructions about association in the Nectar of Instruction and other places. If the devotees have questions about the application of the principles, they can ask their gurus or any senior devotees in whom they have faith. It is really a question whether the GBC wants to start certifying Vaishnavas not under the authority of the GBC and trying to control or stop devotees from meeting them. In the case of the Review Board, even if we did not certify a book, there was no way to stop a devotee from reading it. They ended up reading whatever they wanted, approved or not. So this is a very critical issue. Whether the GBC should even try to certify people not under the GBC's authority and legislate the devotees' association.-- Giriraja Swami, address at Mayapur meeting
So this is the vital nerve of the whole controversy between the Gopi Bhava Club and the GBC.
All problems facing ISKCON are due to one cause: both GBCs and gurus have disobeyed the order of Srila Prabhupada and have become contenders for his position, or for his post of authority. Instead of simply accepting Srila Prabhupada as the authority, as the absolute spiritual head, as the Sampradaya Acharya, everyone is contending for his post. The fact is that the GBC should serve Srila Prabhupada and carry out his order, and the rittvik gurusshould serve the GBC. Then there will be no question of controversy.
But without Srila Prabhupada as the Sampradaya Acharya, controversy will never end. Today it is Gopi Bhava, tomorrow it will be something else. If we keep Srila Prabhupada as the Sampradaya Acharya and keep unconditional allegiance to his word, there will be no opportunity for conflict. Now there are two camps--GBCs and Gopi Bhava gurus. As time goes on, more camps will split off from these two, each claiming a unique angle of vision or interpretation of what Srila Prabhupada meant, instead of following his order.
All this controversy exists only because originally the GBC allowed thegurus to take the powerful position of guru-acharya, disregarding Srila Prabhupada's actual order ("Act as rittvik of the Acharya"), because they anticipated their own ascension to the post of acharya in due course of time. The GBCs and gurus are partners in crime. One partner (Gopi Bhava) is committing murder, and the other camp is shocked, because they did not think it would come to this, namely, actually killing Srila Prabhupada. They thought of just enjoying a little sense gratification in the name of guru, but now it's too late, and what can be done?
The real solution
What will happen next? After everything is said and done, the only real solution to this and all other problems facing the devotees individually and collectively within and without ISKCON is uncompromising surrender and allegiance to the order and instructions of Srila Prabhupada, the Sampradaya Acharya. Rather than waste our valuable time and energy combating and counter-combating each other over the endless issues and side issues in this regard, we should aim our time and energy, money and words at the innocent public on the basis of worshipping the Sampradaya Acharya, Srila Prabhupada. The results will be testimony to the validity of the premise that Srila Prabhupada should be worshipped by one and all as the Sampradaya Acharya. Thus, all devotees can be united in one harmonious family, as Srila Prabhupada wanted us to be.
What did Srila Prabhupada Say about "Gopimania?"-- Excerpts from letters, lectures and conversations
Dear Nitai: Please accept my blessings. I have received information that some of our devotees are mixing with the babajis in Vrindaban. This has produced so many problems amongst our men and women who visit Vrindaban. Here in Los Angeles, we have found that there is a group of about 40 devotees who privately meet to discuss the intimate pastimes, artificially thinking that they can enter into the understanding of the gopis prematurely. This will create havoc in our society, and the result will be that if this is allowed to go on, our preaching work will be greatly hampered. This premature desire to understand the lila of Krishna is due to mundane sex life desire, as we have seen amongst many of the babajis andsahajiyas in Vrindaban. Our Jagannath das came back from Vrindaban asking me that he had heard some babaji speaking aboutsiddha-deha, and he also was listening to these babajis. So I want this immediately stopped. If it continues, this mixing with the babajis, then it will mean spoiling. In many cases these babajis keep two or three women. Asatsanga tyagi. Their association is to be avoided and prohibited amongst all of our devotees who visit Vrindaban.-- Srila Prabhupada to Nitai das, 7 June 1976)