Thought I would submit my views on the poison issue, and to make a
request regarding the BBT court case, and the poison issue remain
separate at this time. The BBT must be restored first, then finally
establish the DOM. These things alone will cure most of the ills
plaguing Srila Prabhupada's mission.
The poison issue is not a topic that many devotees feel comfortable
with AT ALL. So, most devotees blank out on it, simply don't discuss it
- even avoid it. It is too painful of a topic. But, I have not seen
devotees threaten their wrath for just wanting to discuss it, or call
it total garbage. Anyway, Praghosh and I may talk about this privately.
On the other side, however, I will not allow myself to fall into the
misconception that men like Tamal were sinister demons who cruely
murdered Srila Prabhupada and took pleasure in seeing him suffer slowly
die for months. And thus call for and demand their outright murder to
avenge their poisoning of Srila Prabhupada, as Mahesh has alluded to.
Anger is expressed in words of hatred also. From those who support the
poison theory I find a lot of hatred expressed toward those whom they
have accused. They have tried and convicted many of these devotees in
their own minds and thus make no effort in controlling their attacks
against them. This, I do not subscribe to. Some have also linked
Adridharan and Bhakti Caru Swami to the poisoning.
Personally, I cannot accept that Srila Prabhupada's whole illness was
due to being poisoned over a long time. I have not ruled out the idea
that there "could" have been some who wanted to speed up his leaving
who looked at this as mercy - meaning Srila Prabhupada was already
gravely ill and they may have seen this as a way of "helping" him leave
sooner, which supported their desire to take over Srila Prabhupada's
mission, so some may have accepted this. That is as far as I can go
with this. BUT, I am nowhere convinced that this did in fact take
But, I refuse to become consumed by this. Not because I do not find it
important. But for the following reasons. One is that this will NEVER
be fully known. Too many questions will remain and cloud up the issue
Krishna protects his devotees... what about Himself? Krishna goes to
the forest to meditate on Himself, and a hunter shoots an arrow that
hits Krishna's heel, and Krishna ends His earthly pastimes. He even
left a "body" just to delude the non-faithful. Just see. Srila
Prabhupada did not focus on Krishna's passing. We focus on His
pastimes. Srila Prabhupada's leaving is also shrouded by this poison
issue. But, like Krishna's passing, I see it as Krishna's arrangement.
This is the material world, so even though Krishna Himself came and
gave us the Gita, He also left in such a way as to delude
those who remained envious of Him. He left in such a way as to cause
doubt in the minds of those who were not fully faithful.
But, Srila Prabhupada instructed us not to dwell on how Krishna left,
but dwell on His pastimes. Similarly we do not make a big issue of how
Mahaprabhu left this world. We focus on his teachings. Srila Prabhupada
did not focus his energy on how Bhaktisiddhanta left this world. He
"mentions" it only a few limited number of times. Srila Prabhupada did
not set aside his time and energy and dwell on the faults and
misgivings of his godbrothers. If he would have, he would never have
come to the West and saved us, but he would have mired himself in the
politics of those events. Instead, we find that Srila Prabhupada put
all of that behind him. How many times did he tell us that
Bhaktisiddhanta was poisoned, or attempts were made to kill him? Only a
very few times did he very briefly mention this. Compare this to how
many times he, Srila Prabhupada, spoke about the Gita,
about Krishna's pastimes and Mahaprabhu. He dwelt on giving us the
mercy. He dwelt not on the festering puss of wounds, but on the sweet
nectar of the flowers.
I know it sounds harsh to hear, but ultimately what difference does it
make even if someone tried to poison Srila Prabhupada? Someone had
tried to poison Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, and Srila Prabhupada
very briefly, only a very few limited times, briefly mentions it, he
did not dwell on it, he did not waste his time on trying to organize an
effort to bring a court case against the offenders. He did now dwell on
it at all. It was a black spot in the past. It was important to Srila
Prabhupada - yes, of course, just like it is to us. But, I will not
allow myself to become consumed by it. Srila Prabhupad did not consume
himself with it. Rather, he did something totally wonderful. He set the
example how we should deal with such matters also. What is that? He
dwelt on the VANI of his Srila Prabhupadairitual master. He made that
the only goal of his life. And, thus he succeeded to no end in carrying
out his guru's orders and in pleasing his spiritual master. He
did not dwell on the negatives, but he dwelt on the positives. He did
not allow himself to be consumed with hatred and anger for those who
tried to poison his spiritual master. He did not consume himself with
wanting to bring them to trial and put them in jail or to see them
murdered or go after them. Instead, he consumed himself on how to
fulfill his guru's instructions - for that is the total sum and
substance of spiritual life. He had this realization, and he succeeded
in carrying out his life's mission, and performed the greatest service
for Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur. He did this by putting the
attempted murder of his own guru into a black corner of his
mind, and refused to become consumed by it.
What will please Srila Prabhupada more? To become consumed with the
poison issue, or become consumed with carrying out his instructions?
IIIIFFFF (that is a BIG "IF") Tamal did give Srila Prabhupada poison,
look at Srila Prabhupada's personal example and ask yourselves, would
he be at all pleased if so many of his men spend the last years of
their lives consumed with this issue - or will he be pleased by seeing
how we consumed ourselves determined to carry out his many orders????
For this reason I support the BBT case and the implementation of the
DOM, because I see them as important in carrying out his mission and
fulfilling his instructions. But, I cannot find the same justification
for allowing myself to become consumed by the poison issue. I find no
real goal, no real spiritual value in pursuing it. Either way, it will
not serve to fulfill Srila Prabhupada's instructions. I look to Srila
Prabhupada's personal example on how he dealt with the similar issue.
What really will please Srila Prabhupada? That we all hang Tamal, or
that we fulfill his [Srila Prabhupada's] instructions? I accept that it
"may" have happened, but, I see no real spiritual value in being
consumed by it. That is not the goal of spiritual life. Let the crows
dwell on the festering puss; I will rather associate with those who
dwell on the sweet fragrance of the flowers.
What I do find is a real need to preach Srila Prabhupada's glories.
Would Krishna Himself be more pleased that we broadcast to the world
that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, or will He be more pleased with us
if we broadcast to the world Srila Prabhupada's greatness that is found
in his Vani, and that HE alone is the Teacher that everyone
should follow, that his teachings be followed?
I find no value in getting consumed by the poison issue. What would be
the result? A Christian cult-like following who wind up glorifying
their teacher's torture and murder? We find the main deity of Jesus is
of him with iron stakes driven through his hands and feet, blood
running out, a crown of thorns pushed on his head, with blood dripping
down his totally agonized face, left stapled to a wooden post in the
hot sun, thirsting for water, gasping his last agonized breath, then
questioning God's protection. Is this how we want to see Srila
Prabhupada remembered and "glorified" in the future? I will not dwell
on such things. Where is the evidence that Srila Prabhupada will be
pleased by us being consumed by all this?
Instead, I just visited an Indian store here on my visit to the Atlanta
area. It was an Indian sweet shop, run by the Swami Narayan Temple. The
man running the shop is dressed like brahmana, first class, a
DVD is playing on the TV showing Jagannath's Ratha Yatra in Orissa,
then a big festival at their main temple with hundreds of colorfully
dressed mrdanga players and dancers, and their devotional bhajans,
fire yajnas. It was actually a very nice experience - except
that it was not Srila Prabhupada being glorified. The shop was first
class clean - so many nicely prepared sweets, along with samosas
and other spicey treats. The shop was busy. My kids noted that one man
came out carrying many bags and he jokingly told his wife, "I am never
coming back here again, you made me spend over $100 on just sweets."
There were also Americans in the shop. One tasted some of the food and
got on his cell phone and was telling the person, "Hey, you have to
come here and try this food, it is out of this world." Other Americans
were there buying, it was a busy shop. And, in the front is a model of
the temple they are building. It is a massive temple and complex, all
very nice temple architecture. So many live in the area, they have
rented entire apartment complexes where only their followers live - in
a small community in the city, so many shops, vegetarian restaurants.
And, I go to the ISKCON temple. The same OLD converted house as it was
30+ years ago, only today it is 30 years older than it was 30 years
ago. The same old buildings.
The life is missing. The vibrance or potency is missing. It now resides
with the Swami Narayan followers. They are doing what we should have
been doing. They are building a massive temple - and have a small
community right in the city, supporting their efforts by gathering
donations and running restuarants and sweet shop, and simply glorifying
their gurus and teachers. We are only consumed in fighting and
name calling and harboring bad feelings - consuming ourselves with the
only real dark spot in Srila Prabhupada's otherwise full, enlightened
and glorious life.
We have lost it. We are no longer the vibrant living force spreading
the glories of Prabhupada, Mahaprabhu.
Let's get the BBT restored, and the DOM implemented, and let's put last
few remaining years we have left in consuming ourselves in how to
really Please Srila Prabhupada by fulfilling his VANI - and follow
Srila Prabhupada's example and not dwell on this poison issue.
There - I have presented my views on the poison issue.
One last, sort of related topic concerning the BBT case and changes of
Srila Prabhupada's books. There have been calls for jail terms - to go
after the likes of Jayadwaita and even Dravida. I find this
Obviously I fully support the BBT case and want to see Srila
Prabhupada's original books restored, but, I am not opposed to fixing
obvious gramatic changes, as noted earlier, changes that Srila
Prabhupada would obviously agree to. But, wholesale changes - changes
just to change - it has gone way too far - we all agree. And changes to
the very structure of the BBT, creating a BBT-i to replace what Srila
Prabhupada set up, we all agree, this is totally unacceptable.
But, I find it unacceptable to demonize those who made the changes.
Jayadwaita's service was to edit, English editor... And, Dravida's as
well. Their fault was they went too far. They needed to be kept in
check, but instead were given the green light by the GBC to go on and
on. The real culprits were the GBC - for mismanaging, for not keeping
those devotees in check. It is like a temple cook. His (or her) full
time service is to cook, so he starts out cooking what Srila Prabhupada
taught him, but, then he begins to change this, add that.. after 20
years he is only cooking pizzas, pasta, this Western concoction and
that, and no longer cooks jalebis, samosas, or subjis
spiced the way Srila Prabhupada taught. Should the cook be hanged? Or
the temple president or GBC who allowed the cook to go astray? It is
the duty of the GBC to keep up the standards, and the temple
president's to manage properly, so the cook is ultimately not at fault.
Rather, it is the managers who get the blame. As I told the story 2
weeks ago of Srila Prabhupada going into the LA kitchen and finding
just one pot unwashed. He did not ask for the cook to come before him,
but he asked for the temple president and GBC to come - and then he
gave full chastisement to them, and put full square blame on them.
Similarly, the blame for allowing all the changes to Srila Prabhupada's
books, the changes to the BBT structure, the rejection of implementing
and following the DOM, ALL of the blame rests squarely on the past and
current so-called GBC, not on the cooks, or the editors. Devotees like
Dravida are totally innocent, just like the cook who left the pot
un-washed. Srila Prabhupada didn't ask to speak to that devotee. They
were innocent devotees who performed their service - Srila Prabhupada
laid full fault on the managers. So, I see even Jayadwaita as innocent.
Especially Dravida. He is a nice Vaishnava, but he needed guidance, he
needed to kept in check. Like the cook who left the pot unwashed, Srila
Prabhupada did not go after him/her, he went after the GBC and temple
So, I find the talk about wanting to see jail terms for such devotees
as distasteful. I have no interest in seeing any one jailed. I only
want to see the BBT and Prabhupada's books restored and a new GBC that
implements and follows the DOM. I just want to see Srila Prabhupada's
instructions followed - as I know - without any doubt - that will
please him. Calling for or seeing Jayadwaita locked up in jail, or any
one else, I can't see this as being pleasing to Srila Prabhupada. Srila
Prabhupada never called for any of his godbrothers to be locked up, he
never consumed himself with anything like that at all; he only consumed
himself in how fulfill the instructions of his Guru Maharaja. So,
please, let this be our only mission as well.
PS: Gadadhara das wrote:
- <<<I read the book by this idiot who claims George
Bush is a reptile shape shifter. To me that is wacko, nonsense and a
waste of time to even think about. But you have Mukunda spreading this
stuff around on YouTube and making Srila Prabhupada look
It is a known for a fact that for over 100 years the international
Jewish bankers have taken over the money supplies, first Europe and the
US, now most of the world. That is easy to understand and to see. It is
obvious that they also introduced all this total nonsense
(misinformation) about a reptilian race and invasion from outer-space.
Too many people were on to the bankers and the Rothschilds, so they
simply put out all this nonsense about a reptilian race so that people
like you will link the bankers taking over the world with stories like
that and simply reject the whole thing as garbage. Misinformation works
- you seem to be effected by it.
(To Gadadhara:) You actually took the time to "read" such a book?
Better we stick with Srila Prabhupada's books.